Speaker 1: 0:00

All right, what's up everybody. Welcome back to the Okie Smokin' podcast. I'm John and, of course, joining me as always, dolores. Today we got a very special guest for episode 45, ryan from the Flat Top Noob YouTube channel, and he's been firing up some awesome cooks and even bringing beat-up flat tops back to life. We're gonna be talking some food, youtube, flat tops and having some fun, so let's get it rolling and let's cue that intro.

Speaker 2: 0:30

Time to fire up that grill. From smoked pork to smash burgers, outdoor cooking just tastes better. This is the Okie Smokin' Podcast, and here's your host, John Barry.

Speaker 1: 0:51

All right, we're back, Ryan. Welcome to the show man, Excited to have you here.

Speaker 3: 0:56

Yeah, I'm excited to be here. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1: 0:59

Before we get too far, heard you were cooking some fajitas today. How'd those turn out, man?

Speaker 3: 1:04

Oh boy, I'll tell you tomorrow after they come out. They were, they were. They were awesome, though, man, I ate six of them. If I had more, I'd probably eat more, and then I probably wouldn't have made it down here, so it's probably a good thing, yeah you're making me hungry, you're getting hungry over there, dolores right, we haven't ate dinner yet oh I'm sorry.

Speaker 3: 1:25

I always have to feed the wife before we do this stuff, make sure she's happy. So I do most of cooking in the house, so therefore you know I was off today. She worked today, so therefore it was my chore, so I'm good all right, well, to kick things off.

Speaker 1: 1:40

So what was the? Uh? Do you remember the very first thing you cooked on a flat top?

Speaker 3: 1:44

Yeah, it was the smash burgers always, yeah, so I mean, that was one of the biggest, biggest reasons to get one of those flat tops. So we do a lot of cruises, okay. So we've gone on several carnival cruises and the thing about carnival cruises is they have Guy's Burgers. So if you guys don't know Guy Farrar, they do the Guy's Burgers, so they're smash burgers. So I wanted to recreate that. So here I am with one of those little electric skillet griddles at home. That doesn't work very well, right? So when I finally got that thing, I was like, all right, finally I get to make smash burgers. So I think I used I think, the first ones I did, I used the pretzel buns. So but then lettuce, tomato, onion, whatever you know, all your, all your fixings. So but yeah, smashburgers is probably the best thing. On.

Speaker 1: 2:40

Yeah, we had some last night actually when no, I had them, I had the smashed burger.

Speaker 3: 2:48

I did see your coleslaw smashed burger. You did that about a year ago. That thing looked pretty awesome. I'm not lying and I've got one in mind that I'm about to do. So keep an eye out on that one, doug and the boys. We were talking about me doing one of those, so I've got an idea for one, so just keep an eye out on that one. It'll be on the VIVOR, so that VIVOR makes the best Smashburger.

Speaker 1: 3:21

For anyone that may not know your channel how do you describe Flat Top? No top new. What's your channel all about?

Speaker 3: 3:27

um, well, the premise was the the. When it first started out, the premise was I didn't know nothing about it and I'm one of those guys I don't care how I look I'll fall and ask somebody if they videoed it or not so I can get it. So I really could care less if I look like a fool. But when I first started I wanted to show the people that hey, everybody starts somewhere, so don't be embarrassed to ask questions. As it progressed I was a pretty quick learner on it. So you've mentioned earlier about basically that series.

Speaker 3: 4:05

I did last year the refurbished turd where I restored a lot of those things. So when I did that one, I kind of was showing people, if you don't have a lot of money to go buy one, you can find these used on Marketplace and just restore them yourself and not have to spend a lot of money. I'm about I'm not a minimalist, but I'm about finding the cheapest but the good stuff. You know, try, try, try to save money where you can. You don't have to go the camp chef, I have that smoker. I bought that thing. You know that is $800 smoker, but I've got 175 bucks. Then that's.

Speaker 3: 4:41

That was a premise, my first start it was. You don't have to go spend all this money just to get what you want, you know. But I guess here lately it's more entertainment purposes if you've noticed there's more joking but showing you I'm cooking food and just make you hungry. I'm not the king, I'm not the flat top king, I'm the flat top noob and we're probably going to stay in that way well, one of the things you always say when you walk right out on your channel or in the beginnings that welcome, welcome, welcome.

Speaker 1: 5:16

Can you hit us with that?

Speaker 3: 5:19

welcome, welcome, welcome to the flat top Noob.

Speaker 1: 5:24

There it is. I love that.

Speaker 3: 5:27

Yeah, that was so the very first video I made. There was probably seven or eight intros and, believe it or not, and I've got a footage of it. I don't know if it'll ever get released or not, but when I was coming down the stairs into that dirty-ass garage I got, I fell and it took me a while and I was sitting on the couch and I was mad and I was like you know what that all just sounds like garbage. It's like you know, I'm the Flat Top Noob. It's a new channel. I want people to feel welcome. They're like, welcome, welcome, and it just flows right off the top, right.

Speaker 3: 6:08

And I did do a video and a poll. I was like, should I keep it or should I not? And people seem to like it. I think it's become a staple of mine and if you've noticed on the live show, it just shows up there. It just shows up there. I'm kind of happy and pleased with the happy accident that the welcome, welcome, welcome comes into play and to me, I want people to feel inviting into the channel. Well, nothing says invitation and welcome, right. So it's just kind of stuck and it's there.

Speaker 1: 6:44

Yeah, I know I agree. I say stick with it. As a matter of fact, I've got to be honest. I was doing a video. I've done it a couple times and I'll be sitting there. In the beginning I'll go welcome, welcome. I say no, I can't say that. I'm still in Ryan Noob's sprays. I can't do that.

Speaker 3: 7:01

Yeah, so it's a good catchphrase and I think if anybody knows who I am, hopefully it'll be that welcome, welcome, welcome, because this will be synonymous Luke Skywalker in Star Wars. Welcome, welcome, welcome is me. So that was a happy accident If I never fell. If I didn't fall in that very first video, I probably would have never come to light. So it's one of those things?

Speaker 1: 7:29

And what's one of the favorite parts, do you think of running the channel, the cooking or the community?

Speaker 3: 7:33

The editing. The editing, I mean the community is. I'll be honest with you, the community on this side, versus the other channel I have, is so much better. It's, it's, it's so inviting, it's, it's, it's a breath of fresh air. Um, there's, you know, there's times on the other channel where I get, uh, I call it YouTube fatigue, but it's more. You're just alone, you know, and and and this community is I. I mean the process of editing. I love editing, but as far as, like, the community, like you said, this by far probably is a great community. I don't think I could have ever asked for a better one.

Speaker 3: 8:16

You know, we've got a whole bunch of friends here now. I mean, I met I don't know if you know how I met Doug. So I've been watching the Flat Top King and I've been talking to him since he started his channel and he was actually the Charcoal King and all that stuff. And the Flat Top King has a Facebook page you know the griddle page or whatever and before he locked it all down, I mentioned something about my channel and all that stuff on there and then Doug actually responded hey, you got a channel, what's your channel? And then he saw the St Louis Blues hat and realized that I was in St Louis and he messaged me and we started talking. Hell man, I think. We talked for two or three hours on the phone one night and he talked about his computer and wanting to build one, and then he knew rob, and it just kind of morphed from there.

Speaker 3: 9:09

You know, and uh, I mean a lot of these guys I know, even even even you john was from from rob or doug, you know, uh, the well, the welcome, welcome, welcome is almost. You know how I, how I feel with everybody that's brought me into the community. I mean, I'm sitting there at 270 subs and there's a lot of people that have a lot more than I do, but they're just more welcome. I mean, it's great, even if nothing transpires. Through this whole thing I've gained a whole bunch of good friends. You know, I really have. I'm really upset because we talked, I listened to that live show, we did. You know, on the tech side, vegas has CES and right after that they have World of Concrete and then after that they have some kind of Comic-Con stuff or what have you. They don't have nothing for us as griddles or grills or anything you know, to get together in one spot and you know, just talk and then see what's coming out.

Speaker 1: 10:17

kind of weird, unless there's something I'm missing no, I think you're spot on and that's one of my favorite things about it, like you said, because I have a swimming pool channel, you have a tech channel and, uh, the pool channel has over 3 000 subs and I have I don't think I have one full channel, friend.

Speaker 3: 10:36

Yeah, you know. No, you're, you're, you're right. And on the tech channel I've tried to reach out to small creators and they don't want not, they don't want nothing to do with you. It's like man. So I'm like all right, it's like they think that you're trying to take away their subs or something. I just want to have some kind of you know, because I do this by myself a lot of times. You see RJ in there, but for the most part I'm by myself. You know, it is kind of nice to have somebody, especially when I got an idea to bounce something off of somebody, you know. Or if you just tell me it's a crappy idea, I won't do it, then you know. But the White Castle, the White Castle stuff. You see me and Doug argue about that one.

Speaker 1: 11:27

I did.

Speaker 3: 11:30

So you know that makes fun. That makes fun entertainment content too, you know. But we know each other's joking around. You know me, rob and Doug, I think, are pretty tight and close. You know I'm not trying to take nothing away from anybody else. It's just the three of us and I always joke around how they started the live show. It was their idea and everything it was my idea. You know I did put it all together and I reached out. I'm the one that reaches out to everybody to get on and like we've a big Lou coming on this weekend, you know Sunday night, so that's, that's pretty exciting too.

Speaker 1: 12:09

So yeah, no, I think you'll have a real good uh chemistry and I I think it's a great y'all do great together with it. And Rob was from poor guy outdoor cooking was I think he was probably one of the first ones that ever reached out to me and Mile High Guy Barbecue. And that's when I was maybe a couple hundred subscribers or less, and that's when I really and, to be honest, I think that's why I kept going on, because it was like cool and people started to reach out and things like that.

Speaker 3: 12:45

And that helps. That really helps. Like my, my tech channel is growing, is growing slow. I started that in 2020, not because of the pandemic, because of other reasons, but um, uh, it's like I said before.

Speaker 3: 13:01

There's such a thing as youtube fatigue and and you do it constantly, day in and day out. You just try, you grind, you grind. You're like cool, I got one one subscriber. Cool, I've got three views. But it's like you know, after a while it's like you start to get discouraged and you're like, well, what am I doing? But then something kicks in.

Speaker 3: 13:25

That one comment or that one little spark is like OK, maybe I'm OK, you know it's, and that's some people don't talk about. It really isn't. You know, if you noticed on this channel, if you go back to my first video and you go back and you actually watch the first video from Rhino Tech the tech channel, you'll go back to my first video and you go back and you actually watch the first video from Rhino Tech, the tech channel, you'll see night and day. I came into this channel with a lot of knowledge that I didn't have, you know, when I started the other channel and I think you need to have that when you start the channels to grow. It's just fortunate enough for me. I was able to have a little bit of a step up I'm looking at your first one on this one.

Speaker 1: 14:14

It's called should loads, assemble your new riddles that sound like your first video that was my first video.

Speaker 3: 14:20

Well, so did. Did you guys ever hear the story of how I got that griddle?

Speaker 3: 14:26

I don't believe I did so I was looking at, I'm looking, I'm looking at them, but me, as as I am, I, you know I'm like, okay, I'm gonna go buy one. And then, all right, this is more important. All right, this is more important. Well, my parents had bought, had built two houses in the in the course of about three and a half years. Well, me being a low voltage guy and a networking guy, and all that, I wired up their first house.

Speaker 3: 14:54

I refused to take any money. I refused, you know, because it's just family, I don't do that. That's just not how we were brought up. I just I'm going to go wire your house and get everything the way it's supposed to be, and then we move on. Well, then they built their second house and I did the same thing. Well, my mom's like I need to give you some money. I was like I don't want no money, it's just the way it is. So they hoodwinked me. They found a workaround. They show up one day with that black stone. I can't tell you to take it back, I can give you your money back. I can't tell you to take back the blackstone. I was like, well, crap. My wife's like, just take it, it'll make them feel good, just take it. I'm like, all right. And that's where they had Lowe's assemble it and all that stuff.

Speaker 3: 15:42

I was like, well, I might as well just make a video on should those to symbol it. Now there was some little flaws here and there with it but you know, it made for a good first video and it just snowballed from there, you know, and I never had gas anything. So I never had a gas grill. I always used charcoal. I don't like gas, you know as far as what the grill's concerned.

Speaker 3: 16:05

So I did a follow-up video on how to set, you know, hook up your your gas and all that stuff. And I'm a noob, and if you're a noob to it, there's people out there that don't know how you know. So we're learning together. And that's where the back, the premise of the channel, started at, you know, and it just progressed from there. So I don't know, I'm happy with it. It was just 270 subs in two years. I think it's more. I do it more now because the friendship I have with you know, doug and Rob, and in the community that I've met through them, it's like you got to have something to keep yourself out of trouble. But I found ways to balance work life, and this you know.

Speaker 1: 16:58

Yeah, that's key too.

Speaker 3: 16:59

Right, and you know RJ's in baseball, so like we've got baseball games you know Monday and Tuesdays and Wednesdays and practice. And then I got you know I work four tens or better, and so Friday, saturday, sunday is when I'm off, so I cram a lot of stuff in three days. So that video I did today, I filmed it, edited it and posted it all today.

Speaker 1: 17:23

Yeah, I've done that a time or two day.

Speaker 3: 17:27

I filmed it, edited and posted it all today. Yeah, I've done that a time or two, but, but, uh, but the cooking videos are a lot easier to edit than the text videos are, because sometimes on the tech side of things, you got to make sure that you're absolutely correct on what you're saying, because you can't be wrong on it, or else, for one, you're going to get a lot of slack. For two, you're going to get a lot of slack. For two, you're gonna get a lot of people pissed at you. And for three, you know, you just don't want to be that guy. So there's a little bit more attention to detail, if you will on that side of things I, I can relate just like we're talking about.

Speaker 1: 18:00

You say something and some cool guy come, come on here. What are you doing?

Speaker 3: 18:05

It's not the right way, it feels more like a grind and this is just fun. The tech stuff I enjoy and I've got a lot of computers here and I've got a lot of that and this and the other but it's something I've always liked. I've always been into it since I was a kid. I know I was unscrambling cable TV channels when I was a kid, you know. You know the smut channels that you see a thingy on there. It's like, okay, I want to see that. So I figured out the frequency that they would scramble it on and inject that frequency to make it clear. But I was doing that since I was like 10, 11 years old. You know it's like it's just what it is, it's in my blood I've got a little bit of that too, wouldn't you say?

Speaker 1: 18:53

because, uh, creating stuff has always been something I've enjoyed. And this is actually my third youtube channel my first one I pretty much have shut down because of similar to what you're talking about. It almost hit 10,000 subscribers, one of the most successful channels I ever had About five plus years ago. I don't know if you ever heard of a program called Cody Well, I created video after video after video with my computer. Oh, how do you get the latest movies? Go to it would sit there and people would watch that, watch that, watch that. And then I started how do you get some IPTV, get pay-per-view? So I wasn't really doing anything, I wasn't in my opinion, I was just showing how to do it. Huh, then it. I started getting a little bit of warnings and copyrights and I and stuff, and, and my channel got demonetized and everything, and I said okay, so that that fell apart yeah and like, like you got the jailbreak, the jailbreak fire sticks.

Speaker 3: 20:06

But the thing and I'll go on service calls at work over there. We just had one the other day with that Cody, okay. So they're complaining because it don't work. But what people don't realize is so back in the old days we used to use BearShare, winmx, napster was the popular, what everybody knew about, right, but you could download movies, music, software, anything on there. So when this cody stuff, when the streaming came along where you could actually stream videos and stuff, cody and some of these other third-party platforms basically all cody is your computer, my computer linked up to some network, and maybe I might be watching you know Best Times at Ridgemont High on my computer. But I'm uploading it from your computer, right? It's not on somebody's server like Netflix and Hulu and stuff. So it might not be in great condition. If your upload speed sucks at your house when you're uploading that stuff to my computer, it's not going to play very well and people say, well, cody's not illegal because you're not downloading it.

Speaker 1: 21:18

You're streaming.

Speaker 3: 21:19

Somebody's got something somewhere that they're not supposed to have. You know what I mean. And we used to argue and fight over okay, well, what if I go and buy a shirt from walmart and jeff borrows, is walmart going to come and say, hey, you can't do that? So that was our rational, right, right, our. Our way of rationalizing what we were doing was wrong. But you, you know Premiere Pro. Back then you had to buy the software. It wasn't a subscription-based like it is now, because the Internet wasn't fast enough, but it was also about $4,000 or $5,000. Well hell, I didn't have that kind of money at 22 years old because I was making short films and stuff and I needed that software. So guess what I did, or I didn't do it. I don't want to incriminate myself. Maybe Statue of Libertations is past. Download that software. You get the GenKey, the key generator.

Speaker 1: 22:17

Yeah, those key generators were big back then.

Speaker 3: 22:20

Uh-huh, oh, and then my buddy, my buddy Dave, he got a letter from the FCC because he was, and I told him you're a dummy, he was programming the football cards for DirecTV and you know, selling them for $150 on Craigslist and online and stuff was.

Speaker 3: 22:41

And I told him, you can't do that, but he would run it, he would run, he would run that through his computer onto the, onto the box and then, and then, like he throws a fight on or something he was wanting to watch, so he, just he, he ran it, he ran it live, hardwired, and that's how he got caught.

Speaker 3: 23:01

Because they could, they bought, they found it, they monitored, they pinpointed where, where he was, the ip address he was coming from, and and he got a nice little letter from the fcc and I told him, I said you know that's why, uh, you know, uh, oj simpson didn't go to jail for, for, for his ex-wife, but he sure as hell went to jail for freaking football cards, you know. So it's just, it's just what it was. I mean, the kids today don't understand what we went through. You know, back and back back whenever this stuff first started coming out and our generation we talked about. You're a couple years younger than me, but our generation kind of pretty much. Well, put the, put the the forefront of what's going on today. They don't realize it.

Speaker 1: 23:49

You're talking about them, scramblers. They used to have specific ads that would list a phone number. But only if you had one would you get that ad. So they always said don't call any commercial, because you would call that and they would say oh, he saw the ad, you know what he's using.

Speaker 3: 24:08

Uh huh yeah, yep, there was a lot of ways. There was a lot in direct tv used to, once a year, used to send something down to all the receivers and do a. There's a piece of software and what would fry those football cards and you would have to get stuck trying to scramble to find something. You know, another one somewhere, so it's just what it is. I mean, nowadays, between youtube and all this other stuff, I mean you almost don't really need to do any of that.

Speaker 3: 24:38

You know, and these kids. These kids, like you and me, we probably we couldn't wait to see the next movie or tv show or what they're on tiktok and youtube and they're the stuff that's you know out now. They don't care less about freaking and or freaking mandalorian or whatever else is is coming out you know, right, it's all youtube free tv yeah, that that All that stuff is made by our generation, created for our generation and sold by our generation.

Speaker 3: 25:14

When Generation X goes away, the world will never be the same again, you know. So it's what it is. But you know, my kids we got. I think our oldest is 27 and our youngest is 13. So there's a wide array of you know what each one of them got to see. And then you know, this one got me as a dad, but this one has the older dad, so it's different, you know. So you know the younger me was busting his hump, trying to keep a roof over your head and food in your mouth and all that stuff. And the older me is like screw you guys, I'm going to go do my kid's game. You know I miss too much of the other one.

Speaker 1: 26:04

So it's what it is yeah, you know you've gone a long ways. And old, when my grandson, who's 10, he saw a big record, remember that he's like wow, that's the biggest game CD. He thought it was a. You know like how do you put that in a playstation, because he'd never seen nothing like that yeah, my daughter was the same way.

Speaker 3: 26:26

She's like that's a big CD. Dad, I got a lot of old LPs. I got old Run DMC and I got old the first Eat Me Beastie Boys Beastie Boys album. I call it the Eat Me album because it's got the plane and it's got Eat Me written backwards and the three and the A. They never made no money on that album, by the way, if you know that or not, but there's a whole bunch of albums. I got Guns N' Roses in there. I got old Michael Jackson Thriller albums, but she just thought it was a big CD. She didn't know that was my daughter. So our oldest granddaughter is six, five, six, six and my grandson's four. So they're going to be. Yeah, they're still little. They're still little, but that's fine, that's fine. I got siblings that are still making babies. So my sister just had another one. I'm like man, I'm having grandbabies and they're still out there getting trophies. I don't know, I don't want no more trophies. I got enough trophies.

Speaker 1: 27:39

Got enough trophies.

Speaker 3: 27:41

Well, my cousin calls them another word before that, I'll be nice.

Speaker 1: 27:47

It starts with an F and then trophies, so I'm sure your listeners can decipher that one so well, ryan, before we switch gears, uh, I've started doing some live cooks and I remember on your live show you said recently that live cooks is something you would like to do. Is that something you uh thinking about doing or setting up? You know, maybe doing the cook live.

Speaker 3: 28:17

If you burn it, it's live you know, I, I, I have, um, I've got. I mean looking at putting together a small PC that I can just carry Because, like so, if you guys don't know, if you're not monetized or if you don't have the thousand subscribers and what have you, they won't let you go live on your phone. You have to go live through a PC. You have to go live through a PC. So, with that being said, anything I do live has to go through a computer. I don't have a laptop.

Speaker 3: 28:50

So what I've done was you saw the big camera I have, you know the one I use for everything. It looks like a big cinematic camera. So I bought some wireless HDMI things. So you got a receiver and a transmitter and it can go to the computer through the capture card and I can do it that way. So I just need to build me a small computer to just bring upstairs with me with a small monitor and then that wireless on that camera. I can, you know, I'll get my son, I can get my son to just do the camera work while I do that and then, hopefully, I can get that worked out. I would like to do a live cook. I just don't want to do it downstairs in the basement with all this technology, all this computer stuff. I don't want grease everywhere and I wouldn't mind just doing it outside.

Speaker 1: 29:41

Just go outside and do it. Yeah, that's how I like it.

Speaker 3: 29:44

I like to go outside.

Speaker 1: 29:49

We're on a laptop. Let's plug the power right now, but I'll take it out there and, uh, plug it up to the extension cord and have a couple of cameras and I just think it's pretty, pretty cool and if you go live, I never want to jump on I'd go live with you, we'd cook one yeah cool yeah, well, I I'd get marcus to do the camera work and then if I could figure out a way to set up, like, uh, another camera, uh, just like a stationary one that you could go back and forth to, or just small on the screen, that would probably work too.

Speaker 3: 30:21

Like you were saying, you thought you were at a big screen and it wasn't a big screen.

Speaker 1: 30:26

Yeah, I'm using riverside, which is not, and I thought about maybe I'll use restream because they got a free version anyway, and uh, so I think what it's doing is what I'm looking at. Was it thinks I'm looking like I'm looking at them to be watched at me, not me looking, you know it's. So what I got to do is I've got a second little computers I got to set up beside me, I guess for now one, and actually have it going so I can see what the heck other people are seeing.

Speaker 1: 31:00

Right right, right yeah, because I didn't have that.

Speaker 3: 31:02

Yeah, well, and I remember your trial run. Your trial run looked pretty good, though that was pretty snazzy, you know. You said you drove away. You could still see the cook when you went to Walmart or whatever.

Speaker 1: 31:14

Yeah, no, that's pretty cool. Which is an option with what I'm using is yeah, like the link that you came in here with Yep. If you just had it on a phone and clicked the link, you could just go driving right now. We'll just watch you on a road trip or something I can send you to the store.

Speaker 3: 31:30

You just turn off the mic on that particular device, and so it doesn't do an echo.

Speaker 1: 31:36

Yeah, right now Dolores is using an iPhone and I just clicked the link link and she has it. It's not plugged up to a computer or anything, so she could go walking with it. As long as you can keep some kind of cellular coverage, she would stay connected and her stream would continue.

Speaker 3: 31:56

Well, I will. I will tell you like I'm looking right now on on this format. Here you're at 10 ADP and that restream even when I pay for the diversion I pay for, it's only 720, which I I didn't think was that big of a deal for us just doing our little show and everything like that. You know, like I do everything 4k whenever I do my videos, but like the stream stuff, I wouldn't mind doing 1080. But just keep in mind, it'll be 720 instead of 1080 whenever you're. If you, if you go over to there, I and I don't know why they they want it. I mean, I guess it's an upcharge and but the but the difference is price between what I pay for and the other one is so freaking high it's like forget that. And then there's a feature on there where they would make shorts out of our live show. But that's $20 a month. I was like, well, I can just take the live show, throw it on Premiere Pro and create those shorts. Why do I need to do that?

Speaker 1: 32:57

You're seeing that as $10.80, and that is correct. However, the live is only $7.20. The live is Okay, unless you pay an extra $15 a month.

Speaker 3: 33:06

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 33:08

So they always get you by the balls one way or the other.

Speaker 3: 33:10

Are you limited on how long you can be on this?

Speaker 1: 33:14

Yeah, so this plan that I'm on right now is $29 a month I think it's for 24 yearly something like that, I don't remember and you're allowed 15 hours of recording a month.

Speaker 3: 33:28

Recording, but what about live?

Speaker 1: 33:30

Live stream, I believe, counts as that.

Speaker 3: 33:33

Okay, because I don't think there's a limitation on that. I mean, you've seen our show. Some of them go two hours, some of them go three hours.

Speaker 1: 33:40

I think the longest one is three hours and 20 minutes.

Speaker 3: 33:44

I I think the longest one was three, three hours and 20 minutes.

Speaker 1: 33:46

I think it was a long you might have to go to the enterprise print plan where they say contact Well, I think, cause we went over to Sunday nights.

Speaker 3: 33:55

I think I think you're you're, you're seeing like ours was like two hours and 30 minutes, but I think you're going to start seeing shorter ones because rob wants to go to bed. So it's like you're retired. You're going to bed, dude, get out of here. You know. But um, I, I, you know we went to the sunday nights because because doug, uh, doug does a lot of camping in the summertime. You know, for him to be here on Saturday it'll be difficult or whatnot. I think possibly in the wintertime we'll be talking to them. Maybe go back to Saturday nights. I like the Saturday night because we can talk all night and I don't mind being up all night because the next day I'm not doing anything. I just don't want to be up until midnight on a live stream and have to go to work, you know. But I don't mind the long ones. I mean it's fun, everybody has fun. I've listened to them. I was like man, there's some dead air here and there, but for the most part, man, it's pretty entertaining.

Speaker 1: 35:06

You're not going to expect anybody to come in for five hours and just glue their. You know they come and go. Come back a couple. Y'all still. Y'all still here.

Speaker 3: 35:16

Yeah, well, and a lot. So like during the live I'll get two or three views, but like, oh, I can look at or three views, but like I can look at it real quick. So last week I only had like two or three people watch live, Okay, but now I've had 36 views on it, so people come back and watch it later, you know. So there's only 10 on Andy's and then there's like like the ranchers that was, uh, there's 21 on there. I'm looking for yours, okie smoking. 36 views, yeah, 36 views on yours. And only had two people watch the whole night. We were live, you know, but there's 36 people came back and watched it later. So, and then I'm looking at the podcast. Making a podcast there's like 60 p or 660 downloads or 60 watches throughout the whole. And I don't know if you've experienced this, but india, there are people listening in india, you know it's like, oh, it's weird.

Speaker 1: 36:23

You mentioned that because right when you're talking about that, I was going to say what's so cool? I'd have to look it up. But I've got people like you said India, what countries? Finland, just crazy UK, yeah.

Speaker 3: 36:38

I got somebody down in Brazil Like what, why? How did we get down to Brazil? I'm just thinking like the India one. I'm like none of us cook with curry. I can't stand the smell of curry, but I guess they're trying to figure out western food. I don't know. First world problems. Our smoker don't work.

Speaker 1: 37:06

We gotta use charcoal yeah, I'm looking, I'm gonna look at my stats right now. So, if I can pull that up, is that I get fascinated? Here we go locations. So, uh, yeah, countries got the united states, finland, all countries here israel, germany, united kingdom and australia those are. So that's got six different ones. And then when you look at the the places that listen to this podcast, I've got california, new Jersey, ohio, missouri, virginia, wisconsin, florida, several Some that must be some other country. Yuziami, there's a little Oklahoma on base right there, but I don't know. It's cool.

Speaker 3: 38:01

Yeah, it's. So the internet has definitely made the world smaller. You know it definitely has made the world smaller, but it's actually fascinating that people are interested in watching something from over there you know it's, it really is and that there's a lot of UK people I watch. You know there's. There's some guy on YouTube. He's got tons of subscribers. You know there's some guy on YouTube. He's got tons of subscribers. He was building a bomb shelter, a room in his backyard, and then he covered it up and he's got grass. So you go through his shed and there's a stairwell going down to it. You know it's weird.

Speaker 3: 38:40

Hey, you know the world is definitely. It's becoming easier and easier to succeed if you do something right. You know.

Speaker 1: 38:55

Consistency, I think, is one of the biggest things.

Speaker 3: 38:58

Well, you know what? I would agree with you on that. But I'll be honest, it was like three months there where I didn't do nothing on my tech channel. But I didn't do nothing on this channel either because some things had happened. You know, rob knows about all that stuff, but things that happened that pulled me away from it for a while. And that tech channel, I think in three months I gained like 40 subscribers and didn't freaking put one video up. So it's like we talk about that but it's like it's still gross, you know, it's like does it really matter? I mean, I, I do know, I do know that I would like to. I'm trying, I'm trying to focus more on quality than quantity. Would that make sense? Yes, I would think that, because you can put out 10 videos that are garbage nobody's going to watch, but you put out one video that's decent, then you're going to get a lot of views.

Speaker 1: 40:00

Yeah, you don't want to put a video out just to get a video out, right? No, you're producing videos just to produce a video.

Speaker 3: 40:08

Yeah, and I've done fairly well on this channel. With that the other channel, it goes back to the YouTube fatigue. It's like, just get it out, get it out. And you're like, fuck, I ain't going to put that out there. And then it sits there and it doesn't do nothing because I don't put it out and I got to think of something else. But I'm looking at like this channel here, the new channel, that is the potato sausage one I just threw out there just just as a little yeah it was.

Speaker 3: 40:36

it wasn't a welcome, it wasn't a how to, it was just I was cooking them as a cave. This would be cool, just to film real quick, do something real quick and put music to straight into the point. You know, and uh, I mean it's 131 views, but I mean, for the most part I'm getting 300 to 400 views, 500 views on almost every video now, and it's just weird to me that I'm getting that many views on it. So that country cutter did you see that one? Yet that was today.

Speaker 1: 41:08

I haven't gotten to that one yet.

Speaker 3: 41:09

No, so that country cutter just started, so that Country Cutter just started, so it's only six views, but that's actually a big Lou thing, but yeah.

Speaker 1: 41:22

And I've found that it's kind of it starts out slow and then day two and three it seems to pick up, at least on mine, kind of strange.

Speaker 3: 41:33

Well, doug says the same thing, but it's like 13 days, 555 views. So I did the grilled cheese, that grilled cheese, and Doug said, well, it's because you called it jelly roll, and people were thinking that it was jelly roll. I was like, all right, well, if that's the the case, I'll start naming stuff m&m and dante's inferno. I mean, if it, if it works, then fine. You know, uh, the white castle video is 453, so that one, that one there kind of died, but I didn't expect it to even do 4.53. So that was one of those things where, leading up to it, we were fighting and arguing about, because, if you notice me, I'll call people out. Yes, I'm not scared.

Speaker 3: 42:22

And I told everybody on that live show nobody do a White Castle Burgers, right, nobody. And then Rich just cooked that damn food, or whatever this damn food you know. So I do the rising. No, you didn't. You already know, you didn't, what kind of onions you use, real, real onions. Yeah, you didn't do it right, because the onions that they use is, uh, dehydrated onions. So you didn't do it right. So, and then my little z grills fiasco everybody likes to talk about the z grills.

Speaker 3: 42:56

Hey, I was right, I don't want, I mean I was right, I'm sorry, and I had everything backed up and I you know that done. Videos took a while to put together but I want to make sure that dot that the t's were. Oh crap, when you put your hands up, the t's the t's sure that the T's were crossed.

Speaker 3: 43:13

Oh crap. You put your hands up. The T's were crossed, the I's were dotted. Everything else was that garbage. Doug gets a kick out of the Z Grills freaking thing. I don't know why, but he gets a kick out of that Z Grills. But I'm not scared. I come from a world on the tech side. We call out companies that do bad, you know.

Speaker 1: 43:42

We don't just sit back and let them yeah, don't let them do what they're doing Push the consumer around.

Speaker 3: 43:45

We don't do it. I haven't seen that too much on this side. I get you know we're all from the Midwest. I'm sure Oklahoma is still considered the Midwest. I'm in the Midwest, so we've got that Midwest mentality. But at the same time I've got the mentality of don't screw people over. You know, people work hard for their money. So don't sit here and tell me that this smoker here is part of your thing and then we're asking about it you say, well, no, that's not part of it. Well then, don't put it in your ads. Don't have your influencers freaking be in front of it saying you get to have five new grills and you know. Or spin this and you get five grills for this. Whatever you know, whatever the promotion crap is Okay, don't, don't. If it's not part of it, don't put it in there. Play it simple.

Speaker 1: 44:36

Yeah, don't misrepresent or switch bait or click bait.

Speaker 3: 44:42

You know what I?

Speaker 1: 44:42

mean Right, kind of making you think a little.

Speaker 3: 44:46

It was one of those small, small Facebook ads. You know that was an influencer. I don't know who it was. I don't know who that guy is. I'm surprised that guy hasn't even seen all that stuff. But and I don't know who it is Nobody's even going to tell me who that guy is. But you got an influencer there that's got a Z-Grills, that's toting your stuff. You know their promotion in front of a grill. That's not part of your promotion. It just doesn't make sense to me. You know, it's like I'm going to a Mercedes dealership and you've got a freaking Volkswagen there. It just doesn't work. You know, come buy a Mercedes and you show me a freaking Volkswagen Rabbit.

Speaker 1: 45:34

Okay, yeah, it's like no, yeah them car dealers do that kind of stuff all the time yeah. I know they do. You know they'll add something, or maybe you get a brand new TV. You go oh, we just sold that, but we got this, you know.

Speaker 3: 45:51

They don't like me when I go in there, because I flat out tell them this is what I'm paying and if that's not what you want to give it to me, fine, I'll go somewhere else and I do. It's like um, that truck out there, they call me well, we'll give it to you for that price.

Speaker 3: 46:04

I said no I'm not interested, no more. I don't want to deal with you people. Oh well, what could we? What could we do? What could we do? I was like, well, you can give me free oil changes for two years. That's what you can do. So they gave it to me. All right. Oil changes are $100. $100. So you just got to finagle. But I'm too old to heckle and haggle. You just want to walk in and say this is a good enough deal.

Speaker 3: 46:34

Give it to me, yep, and I'm not trying to screw you over, I know and I really like, like that was a Suburban and it was sitting in an Audi dealership, okay. So you got all these Audis in there and you got a Suburban on your parking lot. I'm like, dude, you don't want a Suburban on your parking lot, it's bad for business. You got a Chevy in your parking lot and you sell Audis. I mean, come on. So they saw the light but I was like screw it, I'm not buying from you unless you give me this.

Speaker 1: 47:11

Dick to your guns.

Speaker 3: 47:12

Because I was like I don't need it, I can go find somewhere else. I've gone this long without it. I don't need it right this minute. It's not like we're. I got a company vehicle, so it wasn't like I needed a car, so we already had hers. It was just time for me to get another one. That Blazer I had went kapooey.

Speaker 1: 47:38

I said man had hers, it was time for me to get another one right. That blazer I had went kapooey man, I need something. Well, I think we already talked about this, but uh, you know, I really enjoy the the uh, the way you refurbish the turd episodes to refurb this turd.

Speaker 1: 47:44

Yeah, because I I kind of had some notes here and I was going through there and I I think you touched on this when we started, didn't you? You know how you just you don't want to pay full price for anything and you just kind of find something low price. And because I remember there's a video you took and you restored a complete turd right.

Speaker 3: 48:09

Oh well, so my sister, my sister's? Well, so that one was. I think that was an old. No, that wasn't a member's mark, it was a Char-Broil. It was still a Walmart brand. It was like a Char-Broil but I gave it to my sister. That was the worst griddle I found the absolute worst. Okay, you know you didn't see a lot of that in the video, but there was a lot of elbow scrubbing in that one. There was still. There was grease coming out of the, the frame of the leg of the of the griddle. You know, I mean, I, I know that I cleaned that stupid. I I ended up taking that whole thing completely apart nuts and bolts and everything to clean it.

Speaker 1: 48:54

You did, I remember watching that.

Speaker 3: 48:56

Yes, we watched it, yeah and then I gave it to my sister, you know, but I seasoned it all up and then I took it to my sister's house and she come out and she was all excited and it was perfect for her and her place, you know. Um, but that one probably was the by far the worst one. I still got one in the garage. I paid 25 bucks for it was a 28 inch blackstone and my wife claimed it. So, um, if you guys saw the episode where I took the 36 inch and had it sandblasted, well, I had her sandblasted too. At the same time. We went on that cruise. I dropped it off, so they sandblasted too. At the same time we went on that cruise. I dropped it off, so they sandblasted both of those tops for $100. So I still got to do hers, so I still got to do a video. I've got a hood for hers. I've got to do drain back drain for hers.

Speaker 3: 49:46

I think I can't remember because it was last year when I bought this stuff. I don't remember if I bought wheels for it, you know, like caster wheels for it. I can't remember that far, but I still have to get hers together. But when I got it it was November and so, like that cruise, we went on a Halloween cruise and we got back in early November and it started getting frizzy, cold. Now, like I'm not getting the power spray out, I'm not getting the power spray out, I'm not doing any of that stuff, I'll just wait until spring next year.

Speaker 3: 50:13

So I've still got to do that video, but I don't think I'm going to do a refurbished turd on that one, for the simple fact that I've already got the top sandblasted and all that. But the refurbished turd was pretty good. But I'll be honest with you, it's a lot of work and I don't know if it's going to be reprised or not, just because of the time that it takes to do it. People seem to like it, but I don't think they realize the consumption of time that it takes to. You know, to clean them up is one thing, but you know as well as I do, john, that anytime you add making a video, it makes it three times longer oh gosh yeah okay, so it's like I I got, I gotta.

Speaker 3: 51:06

I gotta focus my time on on what, what's important, and I don't think the refurbished turd editions are a lot of work or completely worth it, if that you know.

Speaker 3: 51:20

I mean, they're enjoyable and it's cool to see, but it's like man, it's just a lot of work but there's enough there to show people hey, you can go buy these things cheap on, buy, sell, trade and fix them up and do what you need to do with them. The problem is people don't want to do it. There's a lot of people who don't want to do that, but there are people that do, so it's it's. It's it's a matter of how much you want to work for it. Right Cause Blackstone's, I think the crappy ones at Walmart are like two 98. And then they go up from there and then you know, if you can buy a halo, you're you're you a Halo. You're not doing the refurb stuff. If you're buying the $300 one from Walmart, you're doing the refurb stuff. You know what I mean. It's just the way it is, because why would you refurb something if you can go buy a Halo or the $500 griddle? You know $500 griddle.

Speaker 1: 52:26

And you're refurbing something that's you know higher end.

Speaker 3: 52:30

Right. So it's what it is and I know I'm the flat top dude, but I've incorporated and I went back and forth on this too, because, if you notice, I started using the cast irons and the smoker and then I've been trying to incorporate the smoker into the flat top and all that stuff. So I think I probably hit it in the beginning. I've become more, trying to be more entertaining. If you notice, a lot of my videos are fun, lighthearted, joking. Yes, you know, because if I can't get you from me cooking, I'm going to try to get you from comedy Something funny, you know, and I think that to try to get you from comedy Something funny.

Speaker 1: 53:12

You know, and I think that's what people like about your channel. I've tried, but I just think you've got the perfect personality, the charm, I mean you know where you kind of get that glow and that funniness out of you. Quirkiness.

Speaker 3: 53:27

Right, well, that's just the way. I always wanted to be a stand-up comedy, but I never had the kahunis to do it until now.

Speaker 1: 53:35

I was always scared. I don't know why I'm scared.

Speaker 3: 53:40

I always find laughter to be one of those things that everybody can relate to, but there are people that aren't funny. They try to be.

Speaker 1: 53:51

I just know I'm not, so I don't try, right.

Speaker 3: 53:55

So and then there's there's, there's, there's sometimes, there's. Sometimes there's subtleties where you don't, you got to take a double. Did he really say that? Did he say go back to whoa? Did he say that? He said that.

Speaker 3: 54:12

So what was that video? Was it the White Castle one? I said something. My wife watched it. Oh it was.

Speaker 3: 54:25

I said something about the griddle being my mistress or what have you, but it just kind of coasted underneath the radar stuff. And I said something about but I love my wife and I got my wife, whatever something, and my wife's just like what the hell is it? You got to go back and watch it, you'll, you'll see it. You kind of you'll miss it sometimes if you don't. But I don't know. I but I don't know. I try to be entertaining. Sometimes I'm not, but that's where the editing comes into play too, you know. So editing was always so.

Speaker 3: 55:04

I don't know if you want me to get into this or not, but when I first started YouTube, it wasn't to actually be on YouTube. Started YouTube, it wasn't to actually be on YouTube. When I was, we talked about pirating back in my early 20s the Premiere Pro. So I've always wanted to be a filmmaker. But you know, I've lived in a world of parents that says you can't my whole life, so you always believed them because you said it so many times. But when I was younger I did short films and we did put them in small film festivals here and there in the local area. And when I got older I was wanting to. I think it was 2018. I've written like three or four scripts and I was wanting to film and make one of them and I didn't have the hardware or nothing to edit with. So I started filming and it just wasn't working. So I waited until I got that one over there built and I was like, all right, well, I'm going to start YouTube to relearn Premiere Pro, because Premiere Pro today is completely different than Premiere Pro yesterday. So the whole premise behind actually starting YouTube was to make videos brushing up on my editing skills, and it just snowballed from there and I still haven't made my short film.

Speaker 3: 56:27

There's a video on the tech channel that I kind of did a spoof not a spoof, but more of a cinematic cinema type of video but it still had tech tied into it. It didn't do very well, but it was just me getting stuff out, just my creativeness out. You know, if you actually look at the if you look, because I can't do it on this channel yet, but if you look at the trailer on the other channel, you can see the. You can see, like me, putting the trailer together in a cinematic type of thing. This stupid, god-blessed thing. I've got to get rid of the stupid camera or find a way to turn that stupid thing off. You saw it in the live show and then Doug's got the same camera now. But I know I'm rambling about stuff.

Speaker 1: 57:22

but Is there anything, any short film or anything you've made that you just never have shown?

Speaker 3: 57:29

You know, maybe have a bunch of stuff out there, I don't have it, I don't have it, I've lost it all. So when I was younger I moved a lot and in my adult years I moved a lot and I lost a lot of that stuff and then, like the hard drives that I had got destroyed. There were some things that happened in the past where people were very malicious, and you know what happens when you put a magnet to a hard drive. Right, oh, yes, Okay, well, so I lost a lot of that stuff. I can't get back, it hurts.

Speaker 3: 58:11

But I can either have one or two options. I can sit here and be angry the rest of my life about it or say, well, it's what it is. You know, you put a lot of work into it, it's difficult. And then there was one that I had on VHS but it got so degraded you can't see. You know, you can't make it out, you know. So it's what it is. All right, you know all the videos I've done. I've toyed with the thought of doing a documentary on the life of a YouTuber. I just got to figure out how to actually approach it. Does that make sense? But I have every single piece of footage, from Rhinotech to the Flattop New. It's all stored.

Speaker 1: 59:03

I got all of it, you could do a big compilation.

Speaker 3: 59:07

I've got five years worth of video. All the mess ups me call myself a fucking idiot. Me call me a stupid ass, me go. You know, it's just you know. And then I got, I got. I got kids in the in the back laughing their ass off because I screw up, I'm fumbling over words and it's like, well, I've been, I've got, I've got all that. I've got all that footage.

Speaker 1: 59:37

A lot of people don't keep it yeah, I, I have some, but I I don't think I I can, I don't have all that I've got all of it, I don't. I get a hard drive full and then it runs out of space and then you're like, okay, I don't need this, no more. Start over.

Speaker 3: 59:57

I kept it all you got it all I've got it, all you know if anything when I die, my kids can go back and watch all of it. You know they'll get a laugh. You know, even with the channels, even if they don't get the raw stuff, you know that's what's cool about this, too, is your kids can go back and watch, watch this Even when you're gone, you know, I think, uh, I think some of this stuff is like just a memoir, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:00:29

And that raw stuff is is. You know, that's pretty cool and and when I first started doing this I was trying to be too perfect, you know, or you edit in this and I've got more and more like live videos, for example. That was something that I've always kind of been scared of, as you, if you, you know it is what it is, so well, and I told you, I told you in the beginning.

Speaker 3: 1:00:54

He's like I, I'm the guy that falls and asking if I got recorded. Who cares?

Speaker 1: 1:00:59

yes, I've let loose and and enjoyed, uh, doing that to where I don't, I don't care as much anymore so who does the editing?

Speaker 3: 1:01:07

you, or or dolores?

Speaker 1: 1:01:10

so I I do the editing. I've got a few different editing softwares. I've got a Mac and Final Cut Pro and I've got CapCut I use occasionally and I've I've got different ones and if you look back at some earlier videos, I used to have a two camera setup. I'd have one camera pointing at the, say, the, the food, one camera pointing at me, and then I would go in there and I'd upload both files and you'd try to sync them. Then I'd have a different audio device and then you'd sync it and then you'd have to sit there and you'd press 1, 2, 1, 2 to get it just right. And I still do that. Yeah, you do the little clap and then line it up.

Speaker 3: 1:01:50

Yeah, like Premiere, it does it automatically. You just highlight both of them, click it and sync it and there it goes, the reason I was asking. So the question I was going to have for you, because this was very hard for me in the very beginning editing myself. Did you find it difficult to edit yourself in the beginning because I had, I had a tremendous hard time editing myself because a lot of those short films I didn't star in them and the ones I did I didn't you know, the ones I did start them I didn't have speaking, the speaking lines or nothing. So editing yourself, I found, was the most difficult thing for me whenever I did. Did I do that again?

Speaker 3: 1:02:39

No, I don't think so, but editing was the hardest thing I ever found myself to do in the very beginning. It was weird. Did you find that?

Speaker 1: 1:02:52

No, I really don't think so. Well, once he edits it, he makes us watch it over and over like all the kids plus me, I did do that. I said, hey, come see what you think I need to just delete the whole thing.

Speaker 3: 1:03:09

Yeah, no, I didn't traumatize them with that. I was just like you know what I'm just going to? So I found in the beginning that if you spend all your time trying to perfect it, it'll never get published. Just you, just I mean, there's just going to be flaws in it, it's just going to be what it is. You just got to, you know, otherwise I'd still be over editing my first video from Lowe's, you know, or the first video I did with my graphics card. That I did on my other channel, you know. Did you happen, you guys? You guys, you don't. You never really saw the other channel, did you?

Speaker 1: 1:03:52

The Rhino.

Speaker 3: 1:03:53

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:03:54

I have subscribed to it and watched some of it.

Speaker 3: 1:03:57

Did you watch any of the shorts that were? So there's a segment on there I do with my boys called 80s Gamer.

Speaker 1: 1:04:07

No, I haven't seen that.

Speaker 3: 1:04:08

Go watch those and then come back Not now, but didn't just come back to me after you've watched the 80s gamers. They're so funny, it's just for like the very first one I ever did. And there's this little premise here. I'm in the hallway, you know, in the hallway closet, you know, acting like I'm reaching for something. Rj know, rj. He comes in and video bombs us every week, you know, and he's in a few of those videos. He comes out of his room. He goes hey, dad, you want to play Fortnite? Sure, why not? So the next, the next thing, you see me. We're downstairs and I have I have a well, actually, I have a joystick. Where is it at Come here, I got a joystick in my hand. He's like all right, I'm ready to play Fortnite. And he goes no, dad, you got to use this. And he hands me an Xbox controller and I pick it up and I'm looking at it and I go that's too many buttons and there's a lot of other and I make myself look so stupid.

Speaker 1: 1:05:15

You do this in your shorts.

Speaker 3: 1:05:16

On the shorts, on the Rhino Tech one, you know, and he gets real involved in it and there's, you know, there's a whole mess of them and they're just hilarious. But it's called 80, it 80s gamer, you know, because I mean the tech channel has got a lot of gaming, pcs like gaming stuff, another tech stuff as well, but 80s gamer because I'm, I'm, you know gen x, and when video games came out, we had pong in the 70s and then atari came out in the late 70s early 80s ColecoVision, and then into Nintendo and then Sega and Dreamcast and you ever have the Intellivision.

Speaker 3: 1:05:58

Intellivision too. Donkey Kong was on that one as well. It was on ColecoVision, because ColecoVision actually put out Donkey Kong, but Intellivision, I think, was a sister company of ColecoVision.

Speaker 1: 1:06:12

That sounds pretty cool. I'm going to do some binge watching on that.

Speaker 3: 1:06:15

You're going to have to at least watch some of it. There's one on there. I left it on there. It's kind of embarrassing, but it was so when I'm singing the 80s gamer song. Just keep in mind. It was an inside joke from a friend of mine that whenever I did it, so a lot of people know it only only he understands it so but I just kept it up there just because it's like okay, well, um, there was one on there. I flushed an air tag. I tried to flush an air tag down a down a toilet at walmart. So I mean, stupid crap like that. My, my comedy comes out in some of those shorts, you know. So, uh, but I've never been like we've talked about making shorts to grow your channel. I think that's a, that's a bad idea.

Speaker 3: 1:07:10

I I think you taught it on that one I think I think shorts are fine to make, but I don't think they're fine to grow, because people aren't going there to watch your long form. They're only going to be there to watch you short. They're subscribing to your short, so therefore they're there for your short right, there's a silly video too.

Speaker 1: 1:07:29

I don't know that what I make is for short. You know it's not dancing, it's not, you know?

Speaker 3: 1:07:36

uh well, so in the very beginning, if you actually go and look at uh, because I stopped making a lot of shorts, I'll make some shorts for right or for for the flat top noob. But if you look at some of the earlier videos, I turned a lot of early videos into shorts and, yes, they're a great way to grow your channel, to get subscribers right. But at the same token, the way that I look at it now, you've been on YouTube just as long, if not longer, than I have. Okay, so you understand part of this. If you're subscribing when you're watching a short, you're not there for long form.

Speaker 1: 1:08:22

You're just not.

Speaker 3: 1:08:23

And if you're not a channel that does a lot of shorts with your long form, there's no point. You know, because you've almost got to keep up with that audience along with your long form. There's no point, you know, because you've almost got to keep up with that audience along with your long form audience, because now you've got two separate audiences on your one channel.

Speaker 1: 1:08:39

And even if you do like a what do they call it? A refurbish it, or you know where you could. Just you could put it in something, have it, pick out 30 seconds of your video. Those people most likely only going to watch that.

Speaker 3: 1:08:52

Right, they're not going to watch the full version and they have a related video.

Speaker 1: 1:08:56

No one clicks it. No, no, nobody does.

Speaker 3: 1:09:00

That's why I say, if I'm making it short, I'm not making it to gain something. I'm making it just because it's either funny, goofy or you know something. I just got a wild hair up my ass to do you know, because I want to. Just do it Right, just to do it Right.

Speaker 3: 1:09:18

It's not to grow. And I hear everybody say, oh, I need to start making shorts so I can grow my channel and stuff. Well, it doesn't work that way, buddy, it really doesn't. I'm sorry I sound like richard nixon right now, but I'm not a crook. You're gonna edit that part out. It's just not. I mean, I don't know a lot about youtube, but I've been on long enough to I've learned a few things here and there. You know, know.

Speaker 1: 1:09:51

You want to make short form content, go make a TikTok or something.

Speaker 3: 1:09:54

Well, you know what and I don't even mind you making short form TikTok's not it. If you're going to do shorts on YouTube, just do shorts, don't do long. Okay, you can stay on, because I don't think TikTok, tiktok is. Tiktok is not going to be here that long. Youtube is going to be here until after we're dead. Youtube is not going anywhere. I keep trying to tell people that Look at what happened with TikTok, where they shut it down for a little bit. Unless they find an American buyer, it's going to go bye-bye.

Speaker 3: 1:10:31

Tiktok is american buyer, it's gonna go bye-bye tiktok it's gonna go bye-bye, um, and youtube's still gonna be here. Youtube, youtube has been here so long. It's been here long enough. They have everything set up for, I mean, they're they're the most generous of the creators. They really, really are. Twitch screws you. That's all. Amazon, jeff Bezos, they don't. They are not very good for their creators. I think YouTube, as far as the platform is concerned, I think they're here to stay. They're always making things better for you and I, the creator. I don't think they're going anywhere, and if you want to make shorts, just make shorts on YouTube and just all shorts.

Speaker 1: 1:11:21

Have you thought about creating your own little just shorts channel?

Speaker 3: 1:11:25

I toyed with it. But I'll be honest with you, man. I mean, it doesn't seem like it takes that much time, but it takes some time.

Speaker 1: 1:11:36

Yeah, and I think it's better to really concentrate on one or something.

Speaker 3: 1:11:40

Well, and I'll be honest, two is hard, two is difficult. You know, shorts aren't hard to edit. And make A lot of those, a lot of those 80s gamer shorts, I actually wrote the scripts for and we followed the scripts for them and I I mean like I did the words, I did and I wrote down what we were going to do and all that stuff. A lot of those 80s gamers were. The whole script was written. Not all of them, but a lot of them were written, especially the ones with me and RJ. They were written.

Speaker 1: 1:12:22

You predetermined what you were going to do.

Speaker 3: 1:12:24

Yeah, and I got. I had it all set up and I did all that stuff. There's there's one there's 80s gamers worst. And I did all that stuff. There's one that says 80s gamers worst trade ever. And I was trying, all I wanted was my Atari back. Rj had my Atari and all I wanted was my Atari back. So I gave. I was trying to give him everything I had, from all my gaming PCs to PlayStations, to Xboxes, to everything. I just wanted my Atari back. That's all I wanted. But he wouldn't give it to me. But it was like 80s gamers, worst trades. So I had all this stuff stacked up on the table. He's like all right, all right, geez, I always make me look stupid in the whole videos. Every video we make of the 80s gamers. I'm the stupid one. I always make him look like the genius and when you watch you know better At least I hope you know better. But I always try to make myself look stupid. That's the comedy of it, that's what makes it so fun.

Speaker 1: 1:13:28

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:13:30

Because we were making it. He's 13 now. We started making those when he was like eight, eight or nine years old, you know. So it's you know there was one with the Game Pass. Okay, so I got the Game Pass right. So I'm trying to stick it inside the Xbox where the CD goes. It's like I got the Game Pass right. So I'm trying to stick it inside the Xbox where the CD goes. It's like I got the Game Pass, but it won't work. So you just got to go watch them. They're actually really, really funny. All right, but I don't know, I could talk and talk and talk.

Speaker 1: 1:14:12

No, it's great, man, I mean, you've been awesome really. I love it.

Speaker 3: 1:14:17

I wasn't sure how it was going to go. Man, I was really worried. You were going to ask me about rec tech and Pit Boss. I was like yeah, I don't know, yeah, no.

Speaker 3: 1:14:32

I'm sure it's more of a format just to get to know who I am, and that's great because, honestly, man, there's a lot of jack offs out there and they come out looking fake on some of these little interviews and shows with me is what you get. I mean, you get the same guy here as you saw on the live show. You know it's just, you know it's what you get. I mean, you get the same guy here as you saw on the live show. You know it's just what it is. I like to have fun, I like to joke around and I like to make people laugh and happy. If you don't like it, well, there's a garbage truck over there. You can go, hop in it and they'll take you down to the dump.

Speaker 1: 1:15:06

The one in St Louis is on fire, hopefully some of these days, you'll sink down to the flames and burn your ass. I don't know what to tell you. Well, I drive a garbage truck, I know. That's why I caught a couple on fire, that's why I referenced it.

Speaker 3: 1:15:22

It wasn't a knock on you, it was just a reference, because I kind of knew that I kind of segued that one in there. So that's awesome, that's awesome, that's awesome, awesome. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1: 1:15:37

It's been a pretty good time here, so what do you think about the pit boss?

Speaker 3: 1:15:43

Well, you know what? It's a boss and it's a pit. Honestly, I don't like them, you know I don't like them. Um, uh, you know it, it it does. I don't like. I like so, like, like the, the, the grease tray, I like it to flow, like I got on my camp ship. It flows down on that pit boss, it's rounded and it flows down to the bottom and then and then goes, goes down from the back and the front to the side. You know what I'm talking about, how it's concaved.

Speaker 1: 1:16:14

Grease all everywhere yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:16:18

I'm just I'm going to get a Z grill. That would be so funny.

Speaker 1: 1:16:25

You get a Z grill.

Speaker 3: 1:16:29

Wouldn't that be so funny. That would be the ultimate. That would be the ultimate, that would be the ultimate.

Speaker 1: 1:16:35

That's going to be a 180. You're going to be their spokesperson. You're going to be standing in front of it.

Speaker 3: 1:16:42

And it won't even be the one that they're offering for the special projects or whatever the hell it is. No, you know what. I've gone back and forth. I've been looking and like man, do I, do I keep the cap chef for another season or do I sell it and buy another one? Um, I've been. There was a what company was that? And they haven't responded to me. So there's a company. Uh, I'm to try to find it real quick.

Speaker 3: 1:17:16

I messaged and it was kind of the brisket grills. It was kind of a genius idea on my part if it would have worked, but it didn't work. So it kind of fizzled out and I'm not such a genius anymore. But that particular company gloats on how much tech is in their grills and they use AI technology and all that stuff. So I asked them to send me a grill for my other channel, my tech channel, and I told them I wanted to go over all the tech stuff for it. So I'll make a video on all the tech stuff on the grill on the tech channel and then use it and come over here to the flat-top noob and use it. I get one product for two channels. It would be great if they would send it to me, but I can't even get them to respond.

Speaker 1: 1:17:59

Yeah, they would get two reviews in one.

Speaker 3: 1:18:03

Yeah, and honestly, and all joking aside, that would be awesome if I could find at least one of these companies to send me their grill for this tech channel and go over all the technical stuff.

Speaker 3: 1:18:16

Because let's be honest with you, john, I know you know a lot about tech and stuff, you're pretty handsome with it, but there's a lot of people that don't, that aren't. And if I could do a video on the tech side of this stuff, on the smokers, because they're getting more and more sophisticated, you know, it's not like that camshaft where you just turn the button, the pellets drop and you're smoking away and you go buy yourself a, because I got a couple of them upstairs with the Bluetooth thermometers that stick in my meat. But a lot of these have that now where it's all on your iPhone or your Android. They got an app and you're at lows. You're like, oh man, I got two. It's too high on that brisket. I'm going to bring that down a little bit. I can't do that with that one up there, but there's a lot of people that don't know. So I thought maybe the tech channel would be an awesome, awesome format for that and just go do a deep dive on that.

Speaker 1: 1:19:21

Just on that alone yeah, because I don't know any tech channel that's reviewing grills.

Speaker 1: 1:19:27

No, but, but I want, I want to do for the tech stuff on the, just the tech stuff, you know, because there's a lot of tech stuff on them grills now that that people don't realize there are but I just gotta find a company that'll send me a grill for it, you know so yeah, because I know a guy that has a grill that he'll be at work and I I don't know if he can fire it up, but I know he can look at it and monitor everything going on with it and, you know, maybe go home or call home.

Speaker 3: 1:19:59

Hey, the grill went out you know, yeah, well, and, and, and, aside from from it getting legs and going into the refrigerator and putting that stuff on the grill for you. I don't know what. I really don't know what the point is, but I'm not going to sit here and say, well, it's stupid, not get me a grill. No, I'm going to say, hey, send me one, because they're putting them in there, so you might as well just you know accept it. But I do think it's one more thing to break, you know.

Speaker 1: 1:20:36

Yeah, the more tech you get on it, the more problems you're going to have.

Speaker 3: 1:20:40

It's like your cars.

Speaker 1: 1:20:42

You know we were looking at refrigerators, and they had one that has a camera in it. So if you're at the store you could say well, do I have eggs? You can go on your phone. We didn't get that.

Speaker 3: 1:20:54

There's a Samsung on it. It's got a TV on it. I've gone to the house I said, well, I need my TV hooked up. Okay, it's in the kitchen, it's on my refrigerator, come on. You know it's all Wi-Fi. It's got Netflix on it. It's got YouTube on it, it's got everything on it. It's like man, why do you need that? The thing's like freaking four grand. You know it's like, why do you need a $4,000 refrigerator.

Speaker 3: 1:21:20

You know I'm not in the freaking kitchen watching TV. I'm on the freaking couch in my freaking living room watching the 65-inch. Why do I want to watch a little big, dicky dick on the fridge? I know, Make a lot of things I don't know. So as a tech guy, I think there's good tech and there's bad tech. My truck, my work truck bad tech Everything is controlled on that 17-inch monitor. On my truck, my heat, my AC, everything. There's nothing. If that screen goes out, I have nothing. You know it's like man. Why, why?

Speaker 1: 1:22:04

Yeah, it's one computer chip away from a breakdown.

Speaker 3: 1:22:07

Give me a mechanic.

Speaker 1: 1:22:08

That is scary, you know. It ain't like back, you know, in ford f-150 or something.

Speaker 3: 1:22:12

You know I had that old ford f-150. It didn't have ac, it had the, it had the triangle windows. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you moved over if you want, if you were hot, you just drove faster. That old four pickup man, I love that thing thing. It had that old inline 300 six cylinder in there, full wheel drive man, I loved that. That was the best motor Ford ever made, was that 300 inline six. You know it had a one barrel carburetor on it so I had that thing jacked up. It had big mud dobbers on it, mud wheels on there. We'd go up to Monroe City up there by Mark Twain Lake man go freaking pond hopping on the damn thing. That was back in my youth, my young, young days, my young stupid days.

Speaker 3: 1:23:01

Those days I could work on them things. I hate working on them now. But man, every weekend, every week, I'd work on that thing just to play with it and break it on the weekend, do something else on it.

Speaker 1: 1:23:18

Is there anything else you'd like to talk about? Anything you want to bring up? What did we miss about the flat top noob?

Speaker 3: 1:23:28

Oh man, he's insane. What did we miss about the flat top noob? Oh man, he's insane. He's a square mil short of freaking being in an asylum. Just if you guys come over to my channel, don't expect to learn anything, but sometimes you'll be entertained, sometimes you won't. Sometimes you go. That guy's an an idiot. Sometimes that's just made that way. It might be supposed to be that way.

Speaker 1: 1:23:56

you never know any food item you want to mention before we go. We're here for the food. What's your favorite? All time cook. Second favorite smash burger the cast iron pizzas.

Speaker 3: 1:24:11

You can't go wrong the cast iron pizzas. You can't go wrong with those cast iron pizzas, you know, you just can't. I've said it before. So Pizza Hut, don't do them no more. Back in the days when we were growing up they actually they cook them in a deep dish pan now, but they used to cook them in a cast iron pan. They used to bring the cast iron pan out to the table and sit it on the table.

Speaker 3: 1:24:34

I think I remember that yes, but they don't make them like that, no more. But the cast iron pizza, I think, is probably the second best thing on the channel I've done, because I've made those things probably five times after I made that video. You know it's good when you make it five, six, four times, not making the video after you've made the video. You know If you've made food on your channel and it's a video and then all of a sudden you've made that thing several times after that, within like two weeks, three weeks, you know you were wrong to something. Especially, your family knows you were wrong to something. Your family knows you were wrong to something we did some.

Speaker 1: 1:25:12

What was that? Recently we did and we made it two or three times. What was that? Uh, I can't think there was. There was something. We just did that and we, oh the crack burger the crack burger.

Speaker 3: 1:25:24

Yeah, I didn't like that. Did you see my crack burger? I'll be the only one that hated it. I'm serious. Everybody else said, oh, it's great, I just dogged the shit out of it she made variations of it and everything else. Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, uh, yeah, sure, like serving over coop to grill that you know they were doing those party ribs. And he goes man, I, man, I made party ribs for a month. They were so good. So you know you're on to something whenever you make them after the video.

Speaker 3: 1:26:00

You keep making it for a while until you get tired of it. You know you need to come back to it later.

Speaker 1: 1:26:05

Because well, if something sucks, I'm going to say it, but when you're doing the video you know it's good, but then you may not remake it as much, you know.

Speaker 3: 1:26:16

Right, right. So, like the White Castle. You know it was good, but it was one of those things that you know I could go 15 minutes down the road and buy a White Castle. I don't need to make it at home. That video was strictly for one, because I got the molds for the 3D printer and then two Doug started. I started on how everybody didn't make it right, and then me and him got into arguing how to do it. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah blah. I think you have a winner when you make a video on a food and you make it several times afterwards.

Speaker 1: 1:26:53

That's an excellent point.

Speaker 3: 1:26:55

But I think you know, after the Smash Burgers, because I mean I've made variations and I'm about to make another one here soon. I tease that at the beginning of the show, but I think there's 200, 120 videos. I've made the cast iron pizza. That was a winner in the house too.

Speaker 1: 1:27:18

That was a winner in the house, and I think possibly our second best cook would be a pizza, and it was cooked in the cast iron on the fifth barrel it was the beer cheese pizza she's got it the beer cheese yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:27:32

That was awesome. Yeah, why didn't you get any? Well, and I so, when I made that, it was winter time, so I, I really want to throw it in the smoker and do it in the smoker the next time. Um, and I, and honestly, I just discovered the cast irons. I mean, I knew about them. I, just as far as using them, I've just I've just recently discovered them.

Speaker 3: 1:27:53

So there's, uh, there's an egg, an egg, um, oh, what do you call it? They call them bowls, but an egg skillet. I guess it's pretty much. Well, you know, throw it in a small cast iron and it's just basically a, a big omelet with a whole bunch of stuff in there, because I like putting green peppers, green onions, green peppers, red peppers, sausage, mushrooms, all that stuff in there. So I wouldn't mind doing one of those. Maybe do like an egg quiche or something with all that stuff in there in the smoker. I'll live all of it. Yeah, I'll eat anything once. If I don't like it, then I won't eat it again, but I'll try anything. I've had octopus, shark, freaking testicles, all that crap Not my testicles, but testicles. I don't recommend those, but it's what it is.

Speaker 3: 1:28:53

So, yeah, I appreciate you guys having me on here. It was fun. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I was a dud, but yeah, this turned out better than ever expected.

Speaker 1: 1:29:06

I got to say it's been a blast, right?

Speaker 3: 1:29:09

So I'm trying. I have my kids and my grandson.

Speaker 1: 1:29:12

I got to say, man, it's been a blast right. So I'm trying. I have my kids and my grandkids coming in and out and everything, so that's fine yeah that's fine.

Speaker 3: 1:29:18

Don't be. Is this the longest you've had? You've had a podcast.

Speaker 1: 1:29:22

It is, and I've really enjoyed it. So we're I'm looking at my timer an hour and and 34 minutes it goes, doesn't it? Yeah, I mean it's pretty awesome. I can see now how the shit show just goes. For two or three hours You're sitting here and you're just like next thing you know you're two, three hours in. You're having a hell of a time.

Speaker 3: 1:29:47

But it's fun. But if it wasn't fun it wouldn't go. It really wasn't. And the three of us I think between the three of us and then the guests that we have, it manages to just banter and play off of each other and it just goes by the time you know it it's like, oh man, it's tomorrow, you know. But that's fine, as long as you're entertained and hopefully the audience finds a find something entertaining about. I've gone back and listened to them and they are quite entertaining. It's like, man, that's funny, you know. So they're laughing, you know. It's like I, because I was worried about that too. It's like, are we really just boring? And nobody, you know, because at the time nobody's watching, but I'd look and people come back and watch.

Speaker 1: 1:30:34

Each episode you release or each thing you release, you gain a few more. Or you know, someone else finds you. And not only that, you get a little more better. Everything kind of gets a little better. You kind of grow.

Speaker 3: 1:30:48

It all started with me saying, hey guys, you want to do a live show, and it just kind of gets a little better. Yeah, you kind of grow it it. It all started with with me saying, hey guys, you want to do a live show, and it just it kind of blossomed from there and then and then, and then we were, we were like, well, why don't we have people on it's like, well, hey, that's great. And then, you know, I'll be honest, I am still shocked, as can be, that the flat top King came on the show.

Speaker 3: 1:31:11

I am, I mean, I'm happy and grateful that he took time out of his of his world to come on that show. I would have never thought in a million years that he would have done that, but I've, I was in contact with him, I've talked to him, I've run it, I run it, run it by him a few times over the course of about three or four months. And I'm still shocked, still to this day. I went back and listened to that live show. I was like man, you know, that was a good show, and just to have him on it's like man, I just I don't think we could do any better.

Speaker 1: 1:31:52

Yeah, I mean I'm not impressed he came on. He came on so early on, yeah. You know, and you know, that's really cool.

Speaker 3: 1:32:01

Yeah, well, I mean, I get what you're saying, I just wouldn't have thought he'd have come on.

Speaker 1: 1:32:12

You know there's because I got this podcast. We've been doing this for a little while. There is a guy that I would like to get on. I don't know if you've ever heard of him. He probably never would come on.

Speaker 2: 1:32:22

I don't know if you've ever heard of Sam the Cooking Guy.

Speaker 1: 1:32:24

Yeah, look him up, he's on YouTube. He's got like over a million followers. He's on YouTube. He's got like over a million followers. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:32:36

And yeah, he's really, really entertaining. Drops the F-bomb all the time and all that. Well, if you notice, I try not to in my, you know there might be some innuendos in there, but I try not to you know. I try to make it family oriented, at least on that side of things.

Speaker 1: 1:32:47

Yeah, but it's very entertaining. And you know, I just like to something if you could get someone like that, so you've got to always have someone or something that you kind of uh right, so well, you know what I?

Speaker 3: 1:33:01

I'm ecstatic because, because he was the one, he's the one that I, when I was looking at flat tops to begin with, he was the one I found to start watching Plus the grills because he was doing the charcoal thing. He was starting to taper over to the because he had that Camp Chef griddle and I just found one of his videos. When he got that Camp Chef he hadn't changed his name yet and stuff, and it's like that's awesome. But I'm just grateful that he actually came on. You know, I mean, it's just, you know, the hungry hussy, he, he won't, he, I think, I think he's. He don't have that personality, but neil does, I think neil I know one person I'm glad that came on, that's you.

Speaker 3: 1:33:48

Oh, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1: 1:33:53

It took a while before I even started asking people on and I've started to kind of said I'm going to start doing that and I appreciate you getting on here and a lot of fun, you're fine.

Speaker 3: 1:34:03

Maybe again we'll get you back to it. I was your 1,000th subscriber. Oh, I told her I was going to mention that. I was going to mention that and I totally forgot all about it.

Speaker 3: 1:34:13

I didn't, I didn't. I'm not modest, hey look. So so that that that week, that weekend, that weekend that we, that weekend we were having you on, I, I cause I I'm not going to lie, I just sometimes I just can't watch everybody all the time, so I'll go and binge watch people's channels. That way I'm more because I've watched your stuff, but I just can't, like I don't. Doug gets mad at me because I don't watch his stuff right away. I don't know what to tell you, man. I just, I just don't. And then he gets mad because I don't comment. I'm like, well, I watch it on my TV. I can't comment from my TV.

Speaker 1: 1:34:55

And I get you and I have some people a few that as soon as you post it within 10 minutes, it's the same few people. Yeah, they watch it right away.

Speaker 3: 1:35:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I will watch. But going back to the subscriber stuff, I got on here and I'm like well shit, I'm not even subscribed to his ass. And then it said 999. I'm like, well, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:35:26

So I was like all right, there he is 1,000 subscribers 1,000.

Speaker 3: 1:35:31

You know, maybe I'll call you whenever I'm at like 997. You can unsubscribe to me and then come back and subscribe at 999. You can be my 1,000, I wouldn't mind so that's awesome it'll be a minute this was fun, man.

Speaker 1: 1:35:51

I hope I can come back yeah, I hope so, and I'll get back on your show, maybe one day. We've already talked about.

Speaker 3: 1:36:01

it's quite amazing, john, the amount of people that are now wanting to come on the show. It's like I wouldn't say overwhelming, it's just like I start feeling bad and Doug wants to throw them in there, when it's just the three of us. Oh, give them a link. I would rather just have a whole, because, if you notice, I do the thumbnails with me him, rob, and then whoever's coming on.

Speaker 1: 1:36:29

You're right.

Speaker 3: 1:36:29

Rob and then whoever's coming on. And you know Rich, rich comes on every once in a while, but Rich has been doing that for us since the beginning. So it's like when Rob wants to go to bed and we're not ready to shut down, rich will come on. You know, but I think Rich is the backup goalie.

Speaker 1: 1:36:51

I might have to reach out to him see if he'd come on here.

Speaker 3: 1:36:53

Yeah, he probably would. Rich is a great guy man, I know. I know him and I got, you know, went back and forth on that White Castle thing, but he knows we were just joking and stuff, you know.

Speaker 1: 1:37:03

Yeah, before we go Rich, he did a video a while a long time ago about the uh toad, the egg toad.

Speaker 3: 1:37:15

You know the, the burger, and you put an egg in it.

Speaker 1: 1:37:16

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot what it's called toad in a hole. Toad in a hole, yeah, yeah and I like that video, so I kind of made one similar and then I tagged him in it and everything said great video. And and that's how the both of us kind of uh and he kind of oh, that's cool and this and that, and we kind of started talking. I find that find something and create something with someone, and it's always cool.

Speaker 3: 1:37:38

Well, so, like Sherman and Cherie or whatever, the Coupe de Grille up there in Wisconsin, you know, I mean I found them because we did that Freedom Wiener collab two years ago.

Speaker 1: 1:37:53

That guy.

Speaker 3: 1:37:55

Yeah, yeah, and I only had, like I don't know, maybe 20 subs, but Rob and Doug got me involved with that one. So it's like, you know, it's like all right. Well, this is cool, man. You know, I wasn't expecting any of this stuff. I really wasn't. I am so humbled right now with the amount of people that reach out to me, doug, rob and I. I know we're the three amigos in the space. I don't know if everybody looks at the three of us or, you know, I don't know how everybody perceives us that way. I mean, it's like we're the leaders of this pact or if we're just part of it. I don't know, man, it's hard to explain. It's just kind of morphed into what it is. But I'll be honest with you, I don't, even if that grows big, I don't want us to change, you know, I want it to be the same stupid bull.

Speaker 3: 1:39:05

I don't, you know, and we've had conversations and it's like if somebody actually comes, like when I started putting this stuff on Spotify and stuff, somebody comes to us and offers this stuff, I don't want to let go of the creativeness of it. I don't want somebody coming in and changing it, because the whole purpose and the whole right, well, and don't change the show, because the whole reason we're here is because the show. But once they start to want to change things, it's like, well then, why? You know, so that's all the pipe dream stuff. You know, it's just stuff that I think of and it's what it is, you know.

Speaker 1: 1:39:51

Well, we would love to have you back sometime, you know.

Speaker 3: 1:39:54

I hear a but.

Speaker 1: 1:39:55

A few more words or something. There's a but in there.

Speaker 3: 1:39:58

There's a but, but what? I'm just kidding, I'd be more happy to come in. It was fun. I know we're an hour and 45 minutes. I broke your record.

Speaker 1: 1:40:10

Maybe next time we'll go and 45 minutes. I broke your record.

Speaker 3: 1:40:14

Maybe next time we'll go over two hours.

Speaker 1: 1:40:16

I've got the stamina. Let's see if we can take it out, say bye. Bye, we'll see you guys. Thanks for having me Uh-huh.

Speaker 2: 1:40:29

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